OH Shhhugar!!!!! just cannot think of any dadblasted words like that, dangnabit!!!
Although in Scotland "OH ya Bonnie Laddie!!!!!!" can mean a variety of things good and bad, one must gauge the tone to judge the meaning.
British slang
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Jackie, I for one hope you will grace us with posties more often. It's such a rich land ye have there. And you've reminded me to pass on a couple of interesting sites:
One I found useful while sussing out the phrases "Scotch the rumour" and "to get off Scot free"--but it is no longer available.
and this one, which only a minute ago finally made sense out of the phrase "so any road" (uttered by John Lennon in "Revolution 9")
Cheers
One I found useful while sussing out the phrases "Scotch the rumour" and "to get off Scot free"--but it is no longer available.
and this one, which only a minute ago finally made sense out of the phrase "so any road" (uttered by John Lennon in "Revolution 9")
Cheers
Stop! Murder us not, tonsured rumpots! Knife no one, fink!
I watch British movies and read books by Brits so the slang is not so new to me, but I'm always amazed at the differences as well as the similarities in our speech. I'm reading a murder mystery set in the 'estates' of London, every single simple sentance must end in innit [which I took to be isn't it, but it doesn't fit ever]. I'm trying to read it without the the slang but I'm flommoxed as to sose, as in "Journey to sose". Mostly I can understand what's going on in context.
mark doing-my-part Bailey
mark doing-my-part Bailey
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'Innit' is indeed 'isnt it' - though it is rather a shibboleth of the 'chav' (equvalent of Wite Trash in America - think Ali G). As are 'cuz' and 'wiv'. Also the replacing of 't's with glottal stops. As for 'sose' I have no idea, I'd need to see it in more context or hear it spoken.I watch British movies and read books by Brits so the slang is not so new to me, but I'm always amazed at the differences as well as the similarities in our speech. I'm reading a murder mystery set in the 'estates' of London, every single simple sentance must end in innit [which I took to be isn't it, but it doesn't fit ever]. I'm trying to read it without the the slang but I'm flommoxed as to sose, as in "Journey to sose". Mostly I can understand what's going on in context.
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The faux-Britspeak of our jugband I referenced elsewhere is rife to absurdity with innits wiv a few glo'-al stops thrown in. When the phone rang at WWOZ (where we formed), the answer went: "OZ, innit?"'Innit' is indeed 'isnt it' - though it is rather a shibboleth of the 'chav' (equvalent of Wite Trash in America - think Ali G). As are 'cuz' and 'wiv'. Also the replacing of 't's with glottal stops.
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Let's not forget innit's siblings:'Innit' is indeed 'isnt it' - though it is rather a shibboleth of the 'chav' (equvalent of Wite Trash in America - think Ali G). As are 'cuz' and 'wiv'. Also the replacing of 't's with glottal stops. As for 'sose' I have no idea, I'd need to see it in more context or hear it spoken.I watch British movies and read books by Brits so the slang is not so new to me, but I'm always amazed at the differences as well as the similarities in our speech. I'm reading a murder mystery set in the 'estates' of London, every single simple sentance must end in innit [which I took to be isn't it, but it doesn't fit ever]. I'm trying to read it without the the slang but I'm flommoxed as to sose, as in "Journey to sose". Mostly I can understand what's going on in context.
mark doing-my-part Bailey
are-nigh (aren't I)
in-ee (isn't he)
in-she (isn't she)
Strangely, you don't often hear much of "aren't we" or "aren't they". It's a bit of an enigma, innit.
I'm guessing that "soze" is as used in: 'er Dad's off his rocker; soze 'er Muvva.
-- PW
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Ta muckle fir thae sites Sluggo they wir smashin'. An' ah hae tae say that o' aw the dialects in the uk, whit passes fir present day cockney is mair like pidgen english. Ah jis' cannae mak' heid nor tail oh it iva.
A'll also say that this is a braw site ina. Ah div like tae tak a keek at whit is bein' said when ah gits a chance. Efter a' Scots hiv went oot o' thir wey fir hunners o' years tae dae thir best tae educate colonials an' the likes. So ah feel it's only richt that ah dae mah bit ina. The reason we are sae guid at educatin' fowk is we aye speak we sik clear diction.
A'll also say that this is a braw site ina. Ah div like tae tak a keek at whit is bein' said when ah gits a chance. Efter a' Scots hiv went oot o' thir wey fir hunners o' years tae dae thir best tae educate colonials an' the likes. So ah feel it's only richt that ah dae mah bit ina. The reason we are sae guid at educatin' fowk is we aye speak we sik clear diction.
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(Scottish Gaelic for "Gods' blessings attend thee")
(Scottish Gaelic for "Gods' blessings attend thee")
Re: Slang
I can't make sense of a lot of it either. Ah jis' cannae mak' heid nor tail oh it iva.
thanks and we hope you will be educating us.
A'll also say that this is a braw site ina. Ah div like tae tak a keek at whit is bein' said when ah gits a chance. Efter a' Scots hiv went oot o' thir wey fir hunners o' years tae dae thir best tae educate colonials an' the likes. So ah feel it's only richt that ah dae mah bit ina. The reason we are sae guid at educatin' fowk is we aye speak we sik clear diction.
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Noo there's a reit treat! I fur a body move 'at henceforth Jackie main render aw 'er posts haur in Scots. Guid excercise fur th' een.
Okay, I did hae a wee help wi' 'at
Okay, I did hae a wee help wi' 'at
Stop! Murder us not, tonsured rumpots! Knife no one, fink!
In this book there is an Autistic child who drifts off into his own world referred to as sose, I know basically it means la-la land but was wondering about it's origins. Translating has it's perils and pitfalls, and I could be wrong.
I'm guessing that "soze" is as used in: 'er Dad's off his rocker; soze 'er Muvva.
-- PW
mark has-been-to-sose-a-lot Bailey
This book has people sorting a lot too, as in "I'll sort this one."
I'm sure the original phrase was 'sort them out' a pretty clever idiom meaning to "teach them a lesson" but has devolved into a meaningless 'sort'. I'm sure lots of our slang has done this also, but it's slang I don't usually use.
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We don't often use the word "bugger" in Canada. As a child, I was taught that it was one of those "gray" words, or words that are just not used because they are unbecoming or impolite. (Crap, crud and a few others that escape my memory also fall into that category).
Today, with swearing being the "norm", and ever second word is the "F" word, I challenge my children to find other words to use to express themselves. It is a person with a small mind and small vocabulary that relies heavily on the common swear words of this generation.
Today, with swearing being the "norm", and ever second word is the "F" word, I challenge my children to find other words to use to express themselves. It is a person with a small mind and small vocabulary that relies heavily on the common swear words of this generation.
One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life: That word is love. Sophocles (496 BC - 406 BC)
Glad to know I wasn't the alone with the Skinettes...taught 'em the same thing.We don't often use the word "bugger" in Canada. As a child, I was taught that it was one of those "gray" words, or words that are just not used because they are unbecoming or impolite. (Crap, crud and a few others that escape my memory also fall into that catagory).
Today, with swearing being the "norm", and ever second word is the "F" word, I challenge my children to find other words to use to express themselves. It is a person with a small mind and small vocabulary that relies heavily on the common swear words of this generation.
'Soze' as a shortening of 'sorry' I do know, but it is usually rendered 'soz'.
'I can't make head nor tail of it' is a common expression in England too, is it used in America?Ah jis' cannae mak' heid nor tail oh it iva.
Norm is actually a perfectly well respected word, forming the basis of 'normative' - a word every philosophy student will have encountered.Today, with swearing being the "norm"
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