I'm not normally a follower of fur-clad supermodels, but a linguistic conundrum clings provocatively to Gisele Bündchen.
She is of German descent, but is Brazilian born. As a German, her name is [ˈɡiːzələ ˈbʏntçən]. However, that's very un-Portuguese. Listening to the presenter on this video, her name is lusitanised as [ʒiˈzɛli ˈbĩtʃĩ]. I wonder if one person can have so different pronunciations of her name.
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Garz, none of your characters showed up on the board but from the video I take it they're saying Gisele Bündchen as "zhee-ZHEL-ee BEEN-she"? Quite an elision (collision?) on the last name. Whereas German would be something like GEE-se-leh BÜND-shin...
In a twisted way it's good to see we USAians aren't the only ones saddled with such level of vacuous TV!
Another interesting note: -chen is a German diminutive, leaving Bünd as the root of her last name. In Brazil I believe bunda is slang for derrière...
Now over to BD for more...
In a twisted way it's good to see we USAians aren't the only ones saddled with such level of vacuous TV!
Another interesting note: -chen is a German diminutive, leaving Bünd as the root of her last name. In Brazil I believe bunda is slang for derrière...
Now over to BD for more...
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Unicode not showing up here is a bit of a worry. Try changing the character encoding (most browsers will put it under the 'view' menu) to 'UTF-8'. You might need a good Unicode font like Code2000. That should help. I'm still not sure what would be the more correct pronunciation of Bündchen's name. Thanks for pointing out that she is 'little bum', which seems appropriate for a model.
As for Thucydides, I would say [θuˈsɪdʌdiz], and the ancient Greeks perhaps said [tʰuːkydidɛːs], but, of course, no one can see my beautiful IPA!
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As for Thucydides, I would say [θuˈsɪdʌdiz], and the ancient Greeks perhaps said [tʰuːkydidɛːs], but, of course, no one can see my beautiful IPA!
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"Poetry is that which gets lost in translation" — Robert Frost
[quote="Garzo"]Unicode not showing up here is a bit of a worry. Try changing the character encoding (most browsers will put it under the 'view' menu) to 'UTF-8'. You might need a good Unicode font like Code2000. That should help. I'm still not sure what would be the more correct pronunciation of B�ndchen's name. Thanks for pointing out that she is 'little bum', which seems appropriate for a model.
As for Thucydides, I would say [θuˈsɪdÊŒdiz], and the ancient Greeks perhaps said [tÊ°uË
As for Thucydides, I would say [θuˈsɪdÊŒdiz], and the ancient Greeks perhaps said [tÊ°uË
Should, but didn't. Often it helps to copy such passages to Word and apply the font. Slightly better but not perfect.Try changing the character encoding (most browsers will put it under the 'view' menu) to 'UTF-8'. You might need a good Unicode font like Code2000. That should help.
What doesn't work might be a length sign, and probably a stress mark at the beginnings of names. It's like some Greek quotes on other boards, where all acccented vowels fail. Tahoma had acceptable size relations between the schwa and other letters Code 2000/2001 had too large schwas.
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