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Postby Slava » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:33 pm

From dictionary.com:

verb (used with object)
1. to stifle or suffocate, as by smoke or other means of preventing free breathing.
2. to extinguish or deaden (fire, coals, etc.) by covering so as to exclude air.
3. to cover closely or thickly; envelop: to smother a steak with mushrooms.
4. to suppress or repress: to smother feelings.
5. Cookery. to steam (food) slowly in a heavy, tightly closed vessel with a minimum of liquid: smothered chicken and onions.

verb (used without object)
6. to become stifled or suffocated; be prevented from breathing.
7. to be stifled; be suppressed or concealed.

noun
8. dense, stifling smoke.
9. a smoking or smoldering state, as of burning matter.
10. dust, fog, spray, etc., in a dense or enveloping cloud.
11. an overspreading profusion of anything: a smother of papers.

c.1200, "to suffocate with smoke," from smorthre (n.) "dense, suffocating smoke" (c.1175), from stem of O.E. smorian "to suffocate, choke," possibly connected to smolder. Meaning "to kill by suffocation" is from 1548; sense of "to extinguish a fire" is from 1591. Sense of "stifle, repress" is first recorded 1579; meaning "to cover thickly (with some substance)" is from 1598.
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I don't think I've ever come across the noun use. I've always thought of this as a verb.

Has anyone else noticed that dictionary.com no longer uses the terms transitive and intransitive?

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Postby saparris » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:17 am

Has anyone else noticed that dictionary.com no longer uses the terms transitive and intransitive?
I had not noticed. Has there been a recent change to used with an object and used without an object?
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:56 pm

And who could make such a change???
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Postby saparris » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:00 pm

And who could make such a change???
Someone who either doesn't know what transitive and intransitive mean--or thinks we don't.
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:25 pm

But we don't have a national grammar sydicate
as does France, and which I mentioned a couple days
ago in the thread on Francophone.
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Postby saparris » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:54 pm

Privately run dictionary sites can change their nomenclature. That's not changing the rules of language.
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:35 am

Like Wiki?
Or privately run word forums??
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Postby saparris » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:12 pm

I'm sure that Wiki has rules format and content, as do most sites that allow postings.

Obviously, no offensive language, etc. Transitive or used with an object are synonymous, so it's up to dictionary.com as to which is used.

However, they can't just decide that a word means something it doesn't. Anyway, I think most dictionary sites are based on Webster's Third International (or whatever number they're up to). Webster's Collegiate is a condensed version of the larger one.
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:54 pm

You are such a lexicon of interesting facts.
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Postby saparris » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:15 pm

You are such a lexicon of interesting facts.
It's a trivial pursuit at best.
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:24 pm

I have my little black book of useless facts to use
at cocktail parties, as well.
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